[QUOTE="Trellum, post: 25164, member: 6216"][USER=6915]@MER[/USER] I think it was stress as well, have you heard that stress kills? I had a very bad bout of stress lately, and let me tell you it's awful. Stress does lower your body defenses, and it's much worse with little animals like birds and fish, it ends up killing them. That is how several of my fish died :([/QUOTE] Okay, I'm laughing but not at your fish dying. That just reminded me of our cat (in Japan as well), that would chase after my fish. I had an unusual fish tank that was round. Herbert would chase around and around and around at these fish. I guess the fish ended up commiting suicide because they would jump out of the water and I'd find them dead on the floor; second thought, maybe Herbert fished them out? Who knows! :eek: